70

✩ August 25th, 2009 ✩

Asif, The Right Choice?

Mohammad Asif’s inclusion in the Champions Trophy squad has divided opinion amongst Pakistani fans. Many feel that he will be undercooked and I get the feeling that the remainder just don’t want to see him back because of the issues he’s had with drugs, which is fair enough.

If you keep in mind Pakistan’s tour to Australia which follows the Champions Trophy, then bringing Asif back now would be the right thing to do in my opinion, but whether the selectors thought of this is another matter. This will be a vital series for us and we’ll need our best bowling attack and Asif would certainly fit into that category as he’s arguably the most talented seam bowler in world cricket.  The Australian tour comprises of 3 Tests, 5 ODIs and a Twenty20. If Asif was not picked for the Champions Trophy then it would be very difficult to justify his inclusion in a team to play Australia, especially with the 3 Test matches coming up first.

The fact that the Champions Trophy is a short tournament in which he’ll come up against quality but where the result won’t matter as much as it would in a WC tournament, makes it a good place to return. If he does fail, then at least he’ll fail here and not on a long and important tour.

As for whether he deserves any more chances, he’d probably point to the ones Shoaib Akthar has been given. But rather than use Akthar as an example of what he can get away with, Asif should use him as an example of what not to do and take his chance this time as it may be his last.

Bookmark & Share:
  • Digg
  • del.icio.us
  • Facebook
  • Google Bookmarks
  • Live
  • NewsVine
  • StumbleUpon
  • Technorati

70 Responses to “Asif, The Right Choice?”

  1. Purna Says:

    You are endorsing a guy who had drug issues? I like.

  2. Rushda Says:

    I agree with Asif’s selection… yes he may have made a few mistakes but i think he has learnt his lesson and deserves another chance. Plus he is an excellent bowler and one with experience that Pakistan could use right now. Its the best decision they made to include Asif in the squad.

  3. christopher poshin david Says:

    Wow…..What a blog….

    Have blog rolled you…

    I dont agree his selection…….Like wat the above comment says why endorse a drug addict???

  4. Brandon Says:

    As Purna was reading your post all she could think about was a bald headed-super-sober-fantastic-fielder, right P?

    The public loves a successful comeback and giving people second chances. (And third and fourth and fith and…)

  5. TJ for Stani Army Says:

    Purn,
    You have plenty of issues, which we won’t discuss here, but I still endorse you. Mercy is good.

    Rushda,
    Hellooooo! Absolutely, I think he deserves another chance but only one more. Any more trouble from him and I think he should be shunned in the future and his place should be given to an up and coming youngster, may be from a poor background like Mohammad Aamer, who will appreciate his chance.

    I’m a big fan of his new ball bowling. His control of seam movement is mesmerising. I remember him having the upper hand over Kevin Pietersen a couple of years back in a one day series against England. That bit of seam bowling was superb.

    Christopher,
    What a name! Are you sweetening me up by the way? Because it will work you know and then you won’t be able to get rid of me. I’m gonna call you Posh by the way.

    I think Asif deserves one more chance.

  6. Purna Says:

    You love me for my issues. Don’t lie. Lying is prohibited during Ramadan.

    On a cricket note, Asif is actually a good bowler. Drugs or no drugs.

  7. TJ for Stani Army Says:

    Purn,
    So it’s ok to lie otherwise?

    Good? He will become the no.1 bowler in the world within a year provided he stays on the straight and narrow.

  8. Purna Says:

    You tell me. You are the king of lies.

    Yes, I can see how he will become number one…seeing as he’s nowhere near the top ten.

  9. TJ for Stani Army Says:

    That’s not true (get it? or did it go right over your big head :o ). Plus if I ‘tell’ you, you won’t believe me….because I’m a liar. We call this a dilemma.

    Number 1 within a year, that is what I wrote is it not? And this is possible but maybe you had your Bangladeshi hat on, in which case it is not possible.

    Though it is a batsman’s example, it will give you some idea on how stats/rankings work. Pakistan hadn’t played Tests for over a year but Mohammad Yousuf took the number 1 Test ranking spot on his return in the recent series against Sri Lanka. Oui?

  10. Purna Says:

    A lot of awesome bowlers will be playing cricket in that 1 year Stani. You think Julio will give up his number 1 spot just like that?

    Yousuf is number 4 now btw.

    Why do you hate Bangladesh? We have a very decent team. You can like Punter but you can’t like Shakib..yet you like exciting cricket. Strange!

  11. Maza786 Says:

    Thanks for the post Stani. Take nothing away from Asif as a player. He is a good seam bowler and has dismissed some top players in the past and I would like to see him return to international cricket and repeat the same.

    However, what message will this give to younger upcoming prospects? That a player of such has been associated with dug scandals but yet he’s allowed to return to international cricket in a major competition, the equivalent of the football Euro. Surely this is unfair.

    Also the likelihood is that he will be rusty of match practice. But I do agree that we need to play our best line up against Australia down under this winter and in those conditions he is highly suited.

    So I like many have mixed opinion on his return.

  12. TJ for Stani Army Says:

    Purna,
    Julio? In regards to Yousuf, I don’t know where he is now, I was talking about then. I think you have forgotten how good Asif is. With his talent, any significant period of cricket will propel him to the top. Check his figures thus far.

    Woa! Easy with the assumptions. Stani hates Bangladesh, Stani hates Shakib Al Hassan??? I’ve never said anything of the sort. Plus, hate is a strong word.

    I’m disappointed with Bangladesh because of thier progression. All this time and they’re still roll overs for the other established nations. That’s frustrating.

    Maz,
    I think a lot of trouble that Asif got himself into could have been avoided if he had stronger support around him, particularly from the Pakistan Circus Board. We must remember that this guy came from nowhere. It is inevitable that he would have been lacking in various human skills and attributes which would help say me or you stay away from drugs for one. The past year or so would have opened his eyes and been a valuable lesson for not only Asif the cricketer, but Asif the man. One more chance I say.

  13. TJ for Stani Army Says:

    Maz,
    Did you check your mail?

  14. Purna Says:

    Julio=Steyn. Seems like you haven’t been following Amy’s blog after all :P .

    But Stani every Pakistani cricketer is massively talented. Yet, they fail to be in the team consistently because of their lack of discipline and of course the shitty shitty cricket board. It’s the same in India, Bangladesh and Pakistan. We easily produce the best raw talent in the cricket world but our development strategies are so poor that we fall short. It’s the one of the major reasons why Bangladesh isn’t progressing. In comparison, players in Oz and SA are manufactured. But they ultimately last longer and beat the crap out of us.

    Maz, I don’t agree with punishing a cricketer for their personal short-comings. Specially one as talented as Asif. If the new generation aren’t smart enough to realize that Asif DID get into trouble for the drug scandal then they shouldn’t be international role models in the first place. SA gave Gibbs numerous chances and look where he is now today. Why can’t you give at least one to Asif?

  15. TJ for Stani Army Says:

    I was relatively new on there.

    Yes, its also because our mentality is not professional enough. Why do you think Pakistan have to keep going back to a Pakistani as coach? How many times has your coach come out in the press and been frustrated with his players because they just can’t follow simple instructions. These are grown bloody adults we’re talking about. They probably forget everything they’re told in a team meeting the minute they get out of the room.

    In regards to chances given to players; the ‘western’ teams always help their players out but we try and shame and ban ours as soon as we can.

  16. Purna Says:

    Sigh, don’t talk about Ashraful. He has been the bane of our existence..yet we can’t do without him. If I ever meet him, I will bang his head against the table till his brains start functioning. He frustrates the s*** out of our nation!

  17. TJ for Stani Army Says:

    ‘The table’? why not any table or does it have to be this specific table? Is this table more effective, in which case can I borrow it for the President of the country, Patron of the PCB?

  18. Purna Says:

    LOL. I think I meant to say wall first and then wrote table..hence it became ‘the table’. But you are welcome to borrow it any time.

  19. Wasim Says:

    Asif is a good test bowler but I have never considered him a good Odi bowler in his last 10 Odi’s he bowled 94.5 overs and gave away 520 runs @ 5.5 and took 15 wickets the above stats include matches against African XI, Bangladesh, SriLanka and South Africa.

    Against African XI in three matches he gave away 62, 82 and 57 runs.He has played 4 matches in SA and has taken only 3 wickets his econ was 5.

    Personally I believe he should have been handed over a life ban but now that he is back I would only talk about how effective he will be in Champions trophy.

    I think he is coming after a long layoff, he has rarely been effective in Odi’s he is too slow and becomes a liability on flat tracks.
    If a player relies on drugs for his fitness and power then he is bound to break down when he is not using the drugs as the body becomes used to drugs. Withdrawl from drugs make muscles and bones weak.

    I think he will be a flop, we have Akhtar’s history in front of us, he never broke down intentionally but when he stopped using drugs he couldn’t even bowl 4 overs in a row without breaking down.

    I think it was not wise to drop Razzaq and pick Asif #1 Razzaq is a better player and was performing well, secondly Asif has never been a good ODI bowler thirdly his body is too fragile for a fast bowler it will be a miracle if he lasts the whole tour.

  20. Rushda Says:

    I completely disagree. Asif is a great test bowler and T20 bowler as well. When it comes to ODI’s he has had a few bad matches but has never been unimpressive.

    He should never have been handed a life ban. Yes he has made a few mistakes but he deserves a chance and now that he has been given one i am sure that he has learnt from those mistakes. He even mentioned in a recent interview that he would never repeat those mistakes and that he will try not to disappoint his fans ever again.

    I support the decision for him to be included in the squad and im so confident of his ability that i guarantee that he will be impressive in the Champions Trophy InshaAllah. He will not be a flop and will not just last the entire tour but will make a great comeback!

  21. TJ for Stani Army Says:

    Wasim,
    Interesting. Many would agree with your opinion that he should of got a life ban as drugs in sport is a serious concern but I think that this would have been harsh on Asif. We should always first and foremost exhaust the option of help/assistance and if someone does not respond, then punishment. Many other boards back their players and I think we should do the same but to a point of course.

    The ODI stats you quoted are not that bad in my opinion, especially for a batsmens game. Asif may go for runs on ocassions but he is one of those bowlers who will always get wickets and not just any wickets but top batsmen. He has had some of the best flummoxed. If there is a part of his bowling he can improve, its bowling with the older white ball. This is because he primarily relies on the pronounced new ball seam for his weapon of movement. But, old ball bowling is something which can easily be worked on and in an ODI, the captain can choose to bowl most of his overs straight up.

    Also, I don’t think he was reliant on the drugs in conventional terms. The nandrolone he had no knowledge of and the opiate he was caught with is more a recreational drug than a performance enhancing one.

    In terms of breaking down, you are right about Akhtar but he was much too heavy and bowled out and out pace. Asif on the other hand does not put as much demand on his body as his run up and release is very gentle. He may get a few niggles here and there but this will be purely from not having played for a long time.

    Rushda,
    I agree that he should get another chance but only one. We have a great talent with lots of potential and we should back him. The recent Dale Steyn medication situation highlights the difference between how an asian cricketer is seen compared to others when it comes to drugs. Steyns positive result was completely innocent and was very quickly accepted as such. Had that been one of our players though, there would have been numerous accusations flying around and the name of the player in question would have been permanently tarnished.

    Inshaallah he will be a success. If he does pick up a niggle then we shouldnt be too critical as it is to be expected after such a period away. In fact, its good to use the champions trophy to get these niggles out of the way.

  22. Wasim Says:

    Rushda & Stani

    Asif committed the drug offence twice, the first time I was also willing to give him margin for his ignorance but on the second occassion he should have known it very well, Opiates are the most ancient performance enhancers and were used by soldiers and gladiators for stamina and to kill muscular pain.

    It’s a banned substance

  23. Wasim Says:

    Rushda & Stani

    Asif committed the drug offence twice, the first time I was also willing to give him margin for his ignorance but on the second occassion he should have known it very well, Opiates are the most ancient performance enhancers and were used by soldiers and gladiators for stamina and to kill muscular pain.

    It’s a banned substance the only reason he didn’t got tested positive for it, because the effect of opiates do not remain in the your system for more than three days.

    Asif has been struggling with injuries, nobody pays much attention to him but he has broken down as frequently as Shoaib Akhtar after he made his comeback from the first drug offence.

    I agree he is a new ball bowler and becomes toothless with the old ball, but inorder to be a good one day bowler you have to bowl 10 overs.
    You can check his post nandrolone episode Odi record and you will see how expensive he has been often times he was only made to bowl 4 or 5 overs.

    Nowadays we play with 5 bowlers we cannot afford the luxury of bowling him just for 5 overs.

    Stani he did relied on Drugs for a very long period of time, Akhtar was heavy and Asif is too frail both frequently struggled with injuries, I know the law allows him to play so he will play.

    In my opinion they shoud have tested him in a domestic tournament before selecting him.

  24. Wasim Says:

    Sorry I accidently posted the first comment while typing.

  25. TJ for Stani Army Says:

    Wasim,
    You make some good points but all things considered and the fact that he is such a talent, I think he should be given one more go. I’m sure even you would want to see him back and bowling well. Yes, he may break down or go off the rails again but we’ll never know unless we give him one more go. I’m not saying he’s an angel because he’s done a lot wrong and been very ungrateful but he has been punished quite severely, cricket wise and financially.

    I agree that we cannot afford to carry him in terms of him not bowling his full quota. I hope Younis recognises this and bowls him out first up or gives him at least 7/8 overs in his opening spell.

    I would like to see him come here to the UK next year when we tour. These pitches will really suit him.

  26. Wasim Says:

    Stani

    I don’t know I am not a big fan of his bowling when it comes to Odi’s but anyways he will try to give his 100% as his career is on the line.

    His record in SA in the test matches is good but as far as Odi’s are concerned he got hammered in all the matches except one.

    It will all depend on what kind of shape he is in. But lets hope for the best.

  27. TJ for Stani Army Says:

    Thats very true Wasim, its all down to him now. He has no one else to blame if he fails now. I hope he can fix up his white ball bowling in SA. There’ll be a lot of pressure on him.

  28. humaira Says:

    Mohammed Asif is cute

  29. TJ for Stani Army Says:

    Well let’s just hope you don’t become Pakistan’s chief selector Humaira, otherwise we’ll have a team selected on looks rather than cricketing abilty….in which case, Shoaib Malik would miss out right?

  30. humaira Says:

    Take it back!

  31. TJ for Stani Army Says:

    Ok Gully, our team will be made up of just two players, Asif and Malik. Both good “players” but not in the conventional sense if you know what I mean but I guess for each their own.

    One would have thought Rana could sneak in since his hair transplant but my experience tells me your stubbornness won’t allow it so no place for him.

    http://www.staniarmy.com/pakistan-cricket/the-new-rana-naved/

  32. humaira Says:

    You forgot Shahid Afridi, Younis Khan, Umar Gul, Mohammed Aamer, and a few more.
    Every single one of them is great.
    Shoaib Malik is just special. In a good way.
    And lol I had no idea Rana Naveed got a hair transplant. I’ve lost all respect for him

  33. TJ for Stani Army Says:

    Wow! Someone needs to control you Humaira.

    “Great” as in great looking right? See the Pakistan team like a box of chocolates do we? Pick and choose and indulge as we please? How about some cricketing opinions Gully? Cricket, the game, remember?

    Why have you lost respect for Rana just because of his hair transplant?…or did you like him bald? And the fact that you didn’t notice proves you haven’t been paying close attention…or do you only do that to the ones you like?

    (Shane Warne had one too by the way)

  34. humaira Says:

    yes, great as in great looking. eyes of the beholder and all that.

    As far as cricketing opinions go, here’s mine – We won the World Cup, there we are the best! Enough said.

    Yes lost respect for Rana, because he got a hair transplant. He didnt look so bad bald, you know.

  35. TJ for Stani Army Says:

    Yes, some beholders need to get their eyes checked though…some.

    Imagine there was a world cup for looks (something tells me you already have). Where do you think we’d get to? Semis against the Sri lankans or finals against Bangladesh? (Now I’m in trouble)

    Do you actually watch the cricket when it’s on? Can you explain the LBW rule for us humaira?

    I cannot agree or disagree with you about Rana’s looks as I’m not that way inclined.

  36. humaira Says:

    Excuse me, we woudl totally win that world cup too. have you not seen Shahid Afridi?

    Of course I watch cricket. not every match though. Like I have no idea who won the Ashes, but I’m totally going to crowd my blog with cricket photos when the Champions Trpohy begins.

    ha ha very funny, the LBW rule applies when the batsman’s leg is blocking the stumps. So if the leg hadn’t been there, the stumps would have been knocked and the batsman called out.

  37. TJ for Stani Army Says:

    “So if the leg hadn’t been there”aaahahahaha! Beautifully put Humaira. That really made me laugh; your first, congratulations. A batsmen’s note to self: “must chop off legs before I go into bat”!

    There’s more to the LBW rule than that. Tell us?

    Have I not seen Afridi? Yes, everytime I look in the mirror. (That was a joke by the way)

    What are the Ashes and do we care?

    Photos? Wow! We have already established that you bought your last car purely based on what colour it was, do you flick through story books just for the pictures too?

  38. Purna Says:

    You would win I agree. Because Bangladesh would never take part in a world cup for looks. We are neither Indian nor Shahid Afridi. Meaning we have better things to do in life…like play cricket :)

  39. TJ for Stani Army Says:

    Purn,
    Stop agreeing for the sake of it.

    Are you suggesting Indians are good looking?

    You really need to show the world this cricket Bangladesh play, really.

    And Habibul Bashar may disagree with you as he’s gone into acting so he can’t be that bad looking unless he’s playing a balaclava wearing bank robber which he is not. He’s actually a policeman in the Bengali telefilm called Password. Of course, by no means is he a male model but you can’t be a minger and make it onto tv. You really should have a more positive opinion on the looks of your people, we can’t all be blessed with kashmiri or pathani genes hey Humaira?

  40. humaira Says:

    Purna,

    exactly, then maybe they should atleast play cricket :)

    Stani,

    That was v mean I know more about cars than you’d think.
    And LBW stands for Leg before wiclet that’s all I know

  41. humaira Says:

    Purna,

    exactly, then maybe they should atleast play cricket :)

    Stani,

    That was v mean I know more about cars than you’d think.

  42. humaira Says:

    Purna I’d like to see them atleast play cricket :)

    Stani that was v mean. I know more about cars than you’re implying, and I’m not as dumb as you’re assuming

  43. Purna Says:

    Stani, the Indians are good looking? Your words not mine. Tsk tsk.
    Bashar is retired, he can do whatever he wants. You are reading in between the lines too much. We are not attention seekers despite being fantastic to look at. We like to focus on what is important..i.e. cricket.

    Humaira, what is this cricket you speak of? I’m pretty sure we are not talking about the same thing.

  44. humaira Says:

    Ok you win

  45. humaira Says:

    Sorry there’s something wrong w my phone so I’ll stop commenting now

  46. TJ for Stani Army Says:

    Humaira,
    Mean? There’s me trying to bring some cheer to your life…honestly! Can you stop dissing Bangladesh cricket Gully, that’s my job.

    And don’t give in so easy with the “ok you win”. Not very Pathan like I’m afraid.

    Purn,
    Your motto on your site is: “I do not follow cricket to watch good looking men sweat it out,I actually understand the game!”, but I have come across many occasions where the evidence shows that you and Humaira are in fact talking about the same thing. Perverts.

  47. Purna Says:

    Thank you Humaira. I like winning.

    Gully disses Bangladesh cricket? Is this some blog that I have to show up on and declare war? Please share.

    Show me the evidence. I am very curious to know when I have endorsed the selection of any cricketer or team based on looks.

  48. TJ for Stani Army Says:

    Purn,
    I’m sure the Bangladeshi team would like winning too but for the fact that they don’t actually know what it feels like.

    Gully and Humaira are actually the same person. She hates it when I call her that so true to form, what do I go and do? I call her it. Just to be clear, I don’t only pick on people who are thousands of miles away from me. I’m not a chicken you know….in case you’re wondering.

    The evidence is all over your blog.

  49. Purna Says:

    I didn’t say winning frequently. I said winning. We win. Check our history :) .

    Chicken? I was never wondering that. Again, all your words.

    The evidence is in your head which is also filled with hatred for me. It’s ok Stani. Hatred is a mask for love. It happens.

  50. TJ for Stani Army Says:

    Purn,
    I didn’t say ‘frequently’ either.

    I just checked your history and it mentions Pakistan a lot. They didn’t help you get established in international cricket did they? How nice of them.

    Love, hate? You’re stealing my psychological theories.

    And by the way, hatred comes from the heart, not the head. Very surprised you didn’t know that, although when you don’t have a heart, you must use your head to hate I suppose.

    But you are right, I do love Bangladesh cricket really. Just wish there were some Bengali fans who would actually bother telling me an the rest of the world about it.

  51. humaira Says:

    not very pathan-like, I agree, but very Muslim-like. its not good to fight and curse, and you say one more thing, and thats what I’m goign to start.

    And don’t call me Gully.

  52. TJ for Stani Army Says:

    Humaira,
    O really? Muslim like but you’re ready to fight and curse? You can’t swear on here anyway, it’s not like humairahumaira.

    But if you want war, the Kashmiri kid is ready.

  53. humaira Says:

    I can swear and fight, but I won’t because I’m muslim :)

    And don’t call me Gully.

  54. TJ for Stani Army Says:

    Humaira,
    I know you can but it seems as though you’ve been behaving yourself recently. Anger management therapy? I guess there is still hope you will not grow up to be a husband beater.

  55. humaira Says:

    that was funny. you first, congratulations. I think I’ll put ‘There is hope I will not grow up to be a husband beater’ on my About Me page.

    Dont call me Gully.

  56. TJ for Stani Army Says:

    Humaira,
    What is it with you and stealing my jokes? Is it an odd way of you saying you like them? Good.

    A compliment? Wow, you have changed. Who was the therapist by the way? Was it the one I recommended? Make sure you quote me when you put that on your about me page. It’s only fair and you wouldnt want to be infringing upon any copyright laws now would you?

    Moin Khan used to beat his wife. See, I found a cricketing connection. Shoaib malik used to beat his various indian girlfriends too….even though he used to regret it when he was eventually sober.

    Do you have “Don’t call me Gully” set as a signature to your comments?

  57. humaira Says:

    Everyone knows you’re lying about Shoaib Malik. There were no “various” Indian girlfriends.

    I know the conversation on whether or not Asif is the right choice is over anyway, but I am not commenting here or on any other post again, until you stop calling me Gully.

  58. TJ for Stani Army Says:

    Magic! Now you can smile.

    Can’t I even pretend the stuff about Malik was real? I see you didn’t deny he had AN Indian girlfriend or that he did indeed beat her, just that there wasn’t “various”. This does give me something to work with.

    Seriously, do you think he’ll make it into our team Humaira. I couldn’t fit him in the team in the Champions Trophy post. Not sure how much you know about the composition of our side and the strengths/weaknesses of the players but what you think? Will he cease to be a regular?

  59. humaira Says:

    No you cant even pretend. He didnt even get to see the only Indian girlfriend/fiance/wife he had, how could he beat her up!

    All biases aside, I think he should be a part of the team. He hasn’t been performing amazingly well since he got made Captain, but maybe that was all the pressure. There was a reason he got made the Captain after Inzamam retired – he was one of the few who performed consistently well. Not a-century-off-34-balls well, but he did good. And consistency isnt exactly a trait common in the Pakistani Cricket team. Shahid Afridi is amazing but can you imagine if all our players were liek him? We’d either lose horribly or win amazingly well each time. But oh, what a gorgeous team we would have.

    Anyway, now that hes not leading the team, he s starting to improve again. I think he did well in the T20 world cup, dont you think?

  60. TJ for Stani Army Says:

    Humaira,
    Wow, hidden font of knowledge.

    I agree about your reasons to why he was made captain, that and the fact they wanted to go the ‘young captain’ route.

    I am a fan of his but I just couldn’t squeeze him in the team now that Asif and Rana are back and Kamran Akmals brother has burst onto the scene. Asif wont play the first game so I’d bring Malik into the side I picked on the other post.

    I think he did very well in the t20 world cup as my posts would tell you. People give Afridi all the credit for his two outstanding knocks but there was one batsman along side him on both occasions – Malik. He had a big influence.

    He also took the important catch of Kallis, in the semis I think it was.

  61. humaira Says:

    I havent had a chance to go through your post on the Champions Trophy, or the ones about thhe T20 World Cup, but of course I agree with you about Shoaib Malik. Hes one of the few who uses his brain too when playing, like Inzamam Ul Haq and Mohamed Yusuf (a while ago).

    :) He did catch Kallis off Saeed Ajmal, and Kallis was supposed to be their hero! Honestly, I dont think I could have ever loved Malik more than I did right then.

  62. TJ for Stani Army Says:

    Humaira,
    Yes you had to agree didn’t you because it’s something good said about Malik, regardless if it’s true or not. You can’t do that, it’s not….grown up. You need to control yourself when Shoaib ‘yaar’ Malik is mentioned, really.

    I agree, he has a brain unlike many of our players even though he didn’t use it when he was set-up in India

    Couldn’t have loved him more? I’m glad there’s a limit to your love for him. (Ha! What? You said it)

  63. humaira Says:

    acting grown up is boring.

    Couldnt have loved him more, but still loved him most :p

  64. TJ for Stani Army Says:

    Yes, but there was a limit ha!

    And no, BEING grown up is boring, double ha. I win, again.

  65. humaira Says:

    of course you would have more knowledge -you’re boring too

  66. TJ for Stani Army Says:

    Oooooo, that was like bouncing me when you could see I wasnt wearing a helmet. Actually, it was more a like a beamer. No need for that. One warning. Do it again and there’ll have to be a bowling change.

    I’m the least grown-up ‘grown-up’ you’re likely to meet. Just ask the children at the nusery I go to, they’ll tell you.

    I tell you what boring is; boring is Shoaib Malik. I think everyone will agree with me there.

  67. humaira Says:

    I win.

  68. TJ for Stani Army Says:

    Only because the gentleman let you.

  69. humaira Says:

    tell him I said thanks

  70. TJ for Stani Army Says:

    He said he doesn’t believe you and to be honest, I don’t really blame him.

Leave a Reply